Interview By Al Guart

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The Kennedy name has long been synonymous with hopeful men looking to make a change.  
Walking in the footsteps of his late father and uncle, Robert Kennedy Jr. entered the 2024 Presidential race promising to reform the Democratic Party and bring healthcare industry organizations back to their traditional values of feeding America's hungry, protecting the Constitution and our freedom of speech, pacifist views, and promising to protect the American middle class. 
 
Reporter Al Guart sat down with the Presidential hopeful to discuss why he felt it was time for another Kennedy in the White House, and his plans to restore America's standing in the world.  

   

On Entering the Political Arena: 
Al Guart: I always wondered if you would enter politics because you were doing environmental law and other things. I always thought about your family and the tragedies there and thought 
you wouldn't do it. I always thought you would say it's just not worth it, it's too much trouble, and you would shy away from it. But here you are. So, what made you decide, the final thing 
that made you choose to [run for president]? 
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: By the way, I have considered politics, going into political races on many occasions, particularly in the early 2000s. When Hillary ran for senate, I was contemplating running, and she called me and asked me if I was going to do it and said she wouldn't do it if I were going to. At that point, I decided not to do it for family reasons. And when she left, David Patterson actually offered me the senate seat. I asked him for 24 hours to think about it, and at that point, I was having crises within my family, and I made the decision it was not a good time for me. It was something I would love to do. It wasn't actually my father's seat, but it was a job I would've liked at that point. But I've had a great life, and I've been effective at doing what I wanted, following my passion, and being effective at it. And I was able to do that without making some of the compromises that you have to make on behalf of yourself, your family, and other compromises you need to make in order to participate in electoral politics. 

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On Reforming the Democrat Party and Saving the Middle Class: 
AG: You've had an interest in getting into the political arena, but what is it at this point that you're seeing that made you think this is the time? Why now? 
RFK: I'm not entering this race out of any personal ambition. I have a good life; I have an amazing life. I have happy children doing good things with their lives. But I felt like I was in this unique position where I have … because of my background, experience, and a conspiracy of other forces, including my name, my notoriety, etcetera, that I have a unique opportunity to fix things that are going wrong with this country, particularly with the Democratic Party.    
I think the Democratic Party is on the wrong track, including the embrace of censorship, the affinity for war. It’s come under the influence of the same neocons who got us into Iraq in 2001 and 2002 and we thought had been driven permanently out of political life and now they’re running our foreign policy. This very pugnacious, belligerent, and violent foreign policy.  I think the Democratic Party is on the wrong track, including the embrace of censorship, the affinity for war. It’s come under the influence of the same neocons who got us into Iraq in 2001 and 2002 and we thought had been driven permanently out of political life and now they’re running our foreign policy. This very pugnacious, belligerent, and violent foreign policy.  
   And then the neglect of the middle class of this country, that sort of core constituency of the Democratic Party traditionally that my father, my uncle ... the cops and the firefighters, middle class working union people whose lives now are in disarray and desperate and who are living lives of alienation and desperation. They’re the kind of people I’ve represented as an attorney for 40 years and I see the way that people are living now, the desperation of their lives. 
I don’t think there’s anybody else in the Democratic Party who is talking about these things. 

"The lock-downs were an assault on the American middle class."

It cost 16 trillion dollars, and the only way you make that money, you find that money; you can't find it by direct taxes. So, you print it. Printing money creates inflation, which is a tax, but it's a tax on the poor. And so that's how they paid for it.
   The middle class has been under attack in this country since at least 1980. We had this period called the Great Prosperity after World War II,  where we became the American middle class, the greatest economic engine in the history of mankind. We controlled half the wealth on the face of the Earth. People were living like kings compared to people elsewhere in the world. And that came under assault beginning around 1980, with attacks on the unions and the destruction of a lot of the infrastructure that sustained the middle class, the obliteration of our country's manufacturing sector. The trade agreements between Democratic and Republican administrations shifted manufacturing abroad to Mexico, China, and Asia. And then the gradual erosion… I mean, in 1970, sixty-two percent of the income in this country went to the middle class. Today it's 42 percent. In 1970, that year, twenty-nine percent of income went to the super-rich, the one percent of the one percent. Today it's fifty percent. And that tells you the whole story.   
   That's why even people in this country who live in nice houses in Westchester County are still living at the edge of a precipice, of a debt cliff, and are living lives at every level of desperation. Fifty-seven percent of Americans can't put their hands on a thousand dollars if they have an emergency, and 25 percent are hungry. The lock-downs accelerated this process. The lock-downs created a billionaire a day. So we created this new oligarchy of billionaires and then widespread poverty below. That's a stratification that every political scientist will tell you is too unstable to support a democracy.
   The people who came into the pandemic with a billion dollars, the Bill Gates, the Mark Zuckerbergs, the Bloombergs of the world, the Jeffrey Bezos, increased their wealth on average by 30 percent. The lock-downs were a gift to them, the super-rich. Jeffrey Bezos, the richest or second richest man in the world, was able to close down all of his competitors, 3.3 million businesses and then give us all a two-year training session about how to never use a retail outlet again in our lives. Forty-one percent of the Black-owned businesses will never re-open. And he was instrumental because he was censoring books that were critical of the lock-downs, including one of the books I wrote. And, of course, Mark Zuckerberg was censoring us and any criticism of the lock-downs while he raked in the wealth.

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Our Broken Healthcare System
AG: Closer to home, we have national health institutions like the NIH, and when COVID hit, I was astounded. The whole health apparatus in the country was broken. People would get COVID, and they were not allowed to have any therapeutics. They were sent home to quarantine and suffered through it. I went through it myself. I was hesitant about the vaccine. I didn’t trust it. So, I got COVID and went through two or three weeks with it …
RFK: You would’ve gotten COVID whether you had the vaccine or not.

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AG: Exactly. In hindsight, yeah, but everybody’s looking at you like you’re a problem, right, because you didn’t get the vaccine. Even the doctors and even the nurses. Did you get the vaccine? No. What I saw was a broken healthcare system when it came to COVID. Doctors were afraid to prescribe anything. You would ask about Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin, and they’d say we can’t do it. In fact, they reclassified some of these long-established therapeutics as schedule one substance, so you couldn’t even get them by telehealth because they would have to see you. They blocked off any treatment and sent people home to survive, hopefully. That’s not healthcare. 
RFK: Of course it’s not. For the first time in history, no early treatment regimen was recommended for a respiratory disease. If you go in for the flu, they’re going to give you something. What they were doing here was people were coming into hospitals sick, they had symptoms that tested positive for COVID, and [doctors] would say there is no treatment. You go home until your lips turn blue and you can’t breathe, and then come back, and we’ll give you two things that will kill you: Intubation and Remdesivir. 
   There was a study that came out that said the reason we had all these deaths in New York City was because of intubation. We were infecting people with pneumonia bacteria from the intubation, and the Remdesivir was killing people.    Originally one of the symptoms of death from COVID was kidney failure. The reason it was kidney failure is because Remdesivir was killing them. That’s how Remdesivir kills you from kidney failure. 
   That was Tony Fauci’s pet drug. He knew it would kill you from kidney failure because in 2019, he had put that drug in a clinical trial for Ebola in Africa, and the safety review board had pulled it, saying it is killing more people than Ebola from kidney failure. 
    Ebola kills 53 percent of the people who get it. Yet, Remdesivir was killing more. This was a hideously dangerous, lethal concoction he pulled off the shelf and prescribed with a fixed study that was just pure scientific fraud and an announcement on the White House couch that
we now have the solution; we have a treatment. They liked Remdesivir because it is given by injection and IV in the last stages of the disease, so it didn’t compete with the vaccine. 
The reason they hated Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine is that there’s a little-known federal law that says if there is an existing drug that is approved for any purpose like Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin - Ivermectin is five cents a pill, not $3,000 per treatment like Remdesivir and these other drugs - it’s off patent so anybody can make it and Big Pharma isn’t making any money off it. Also, there’s a law that says if an existing treatment for any purpose shows itself effective against the target disease, it is illegal to issue an emergency use authorization for a vaccine. So, if they had acknowledged that Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin worked, it would have killed their entire vaccine enterprise. So, they had to make us think they didn’t work. They had to make us think, oh, this is horse dewormer. 
They lied about it. 
   It won the Nobel Prize for treating humans, not horses. It obliterated River Blindness in Africa. 
It’s been given doses to humans and has many fewer side effects than aspirin. It’s as safe as you can get a drug and is incredibly effective against COVID. We know that because there are over a hundred peer-reviewed studies about it. And yet the medical establishment could not tolerate it because it would have killed their hundred-billion-dollar vaccine enterprise. 

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AG: So the NIH, you’re saying, is not doing its job. 
RFK: No. In fact they’ll punish you if you try to do that research. They’ll defund your university, they'll ruin your career. They don’t want that research done because they're protecting the chemical companies, the pharmaceutical companies, the pesticide companies that are responsible. 
 
AG: So they should just be completely re-invented? 
RFK: What you need to do is take a lot of the funding away from virology. A lot of virology is hucksterism. Not all of it, clearly. It has stepped away from rigorous, evidence based science, evidence based medicine into kind of a magical realm. It needs to have scientific discipline reimposed on the entire field of virology. We ought to be funding the study of the etiology of chronic diseases in our universities. That’s not what they’re doing. What has happened is NIH has been transformed into an incubator for the pharmaceutical industry. So, it creates new products to treat all these diseases that are being caused. We have a $4.3 trillion health cost in this country. Eighty percent of that goes to chronic disease. There’s no other country in the world that has a chronic disease epidemic like we do. This is a US thing. We’re the worst. And we use more pharmaceutical drugs than anybody. We use three to four times what Europeans use and we have the worst health outcomes. We pay more for our medical system than anybody in the world and we have the worst health outcomes. The whole system is messed up and it needs to be fixed.

Handling the Next Pandemic and Chronic Illness

AG: Is there anything you can think of to propose to, let's say there's another pandemic,                and if you're President and something happens?
RFK: Yeah. I'm going to dismantle the whole system and end it that way. That is the tip of the iceberg that shows the corruption that goes through NIH. They were able to pull this off because the entire system is now corrupt. NIH has a $42 billion budget and is supposed to spend that budget making Americans healthier, doing studies that make us healthier, and figuring out why we have an autism epidemic. Why have we gone from one in ten thousand people having autism in my generation to one in every 34 kids having it in my children's generation, one out of every 22 boys? How did that happen? Why do we suddenly have peanut allergies which were non-existent before? Why do we have an eczema epidemic in children? Why do we have all these auto-immune diseases like Crohn's? Where did Crohn's disease suddenly happen with all these children? Rheumatoid Arthritis, Juvenile Diabetes, Lupus. Where are all these neurological disorders, Turrets Syndrome, and ticks (coming from)? 
   They all began around 1989, and they all clearly have environmental toxin exposure. Genes don't cause epidemics. Something is happening to our children. Why don't we know what that is right now? Why are we spending that $42 billion - that's a much worse crisis than COVID ever was.

 

 

 

AG: Do you think it might also be the food supply?
RFK: Of course. Our children are swimming around in toxic waste. Glyphosate is a suspect; pesticides, PFOAs, flame retardants in their pajamas, and our furniture and everything. Cell phones and wifi are other suspects, other potential culprits. It could be a collaboration of all of these and the vaccines, of course. The schedule exploded in 1989, and all 
of those injuries that I talked about are listed in the manufacturer's inserts for those vaccines as vaccine side effects. So clearly, the vaccines are playing some role, but it's a collaboration of all these different toxins. But let's identify them. 

 

On being the right person to run for President
RFK: You ask me why I think I should run. I feel like I'm the only person who can actually fix it. That's not like vanity 
or … it just happens to be what I've been working on. I've been suing all of these regulatory agencies that have been captured. I've been suing USDA, the Department of Agriculture, for 20 or 30 years for the food issues that you were talking about, for giving us the processed food industry and for factory farms which are using all of these antibiotics
and hormones, which are in the food supply and are probably part of this big problem. 

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I know how to unravel the agency capture in those agencies probably better than anybody. I would say better than anybody. I know when you sue these agencies, and I've sued almost all of them. I've sued DOT, the Department of Transportation. I'm now representing a thousand families in Columbia County, Ohio, whose lives have been upended by the Norfolk Southern spill, a symptom of agency capture at DOT. That's why that happened. It was a failure of the government. I've sued the FCC and FDA on cell phone regulations. Wifi radiation is microwaving us.   It destroys the blood/brain barrier and allows toxins that are in your blood, and that normally cannot get into your brain; into your brain. 
   We're seeing these explosions in Alzheimer's and dementia; ev en now in kids we're seeing Alzheimer's. This is not something that existed before. People did get Alzheimer's, but it was rare. Today, you and I are likely, if we hit a certain age, to get Alzheimer's. Essentially it's happening to everybody. There's a reason for it.

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Offshore Wind and Beached Whales
AG: On a different subject, but related. There are people who are saying whales are washing up on the shore supposedly because of the work that's being done under the water. 
RFK: Offshore wind

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AG: But they're saying there's no evidence, you know how it is with the government and these big corporations, they say there's no evidence, there's not enough evidence. But there is a coincidence that's happening.
RFK: There's a coincidence, and there's also a lot of scientists, even at Stony Brook, many of them are funded by the offshore wind industry. There's evidence they're not doing the kind of autopsies and necropsies on these marine mammal fatalities that need to be done because they don't want to see the evidence. I've fought against offshore wind for many, many years precisely for this kind of reason. We have the best wind resources in the world in this country on shore. We heavily subsidize offshore. Why are we doing that? We should be building wind on shore, not offshore. Now this is happening to the whales. What worse could happen? What worse could happen than exterminating these species that everybody is concerned about? 

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AG: There's sort of a mania that the world is going to end if we don't all switch to electricity and get off fossil fuels. We're all going to die. 
RFK: It's a carbon orthodoxy with these top-down solutions and the clamping down of these totalitarian controls that are being used as a pretext for Davos and elsewhere. I believe that climate change is real, that a lot of it is human-caused, and that it's existential. But focusing just on carbon emissions and making that the end-all-be-all is a huge mistake. We need to be preserving habitat. And, if you don't believe climate change is happening, that it's human-caused, that's okay with me. I'm not going to impose my beliefs on you on that subject. I don't think I need to. There's plenty of good reasons to get rid of carbon without even acknowledging it may be contributing to climate. The things we should be doing, we should be doing anyway. We should be doing regenerative agriculture; we should be doing habitat restoration; we should be taking care of the soil. We want to get rid of coal. It's cataclysmic for us. 
   They're cutting down the Appalachian Mountains. They've already flattened an area of the Appalachians larger than the state of Delaware. They've cut down the five hundred of the biggest Appalachian Mountains in West Virginia. They use the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb a week to blow the tops off the mountains to get to the coal beneath. These are our purple mountains majesty, the landscape for Daniel Boone and Davey Crockett, and we're cutting them to the ground. Nobody wants that. We've buried 2,200 miles of rivers. Every freshwater fish in America has mercury contamination in its flesh because of coal, burning coal, and the acid rain has destroyed the forest cover of the Appalachians from Georgia to Northern Quebec and sterilized all the lakes. So, you don't need to believe in climate change to want to get rid of coal to transition. We should be doing that. We shouldn't be doing that at the expense of killing all the whales in the Atlantic Ocean. 

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    Having been censored for the past 18 years, Robert Kennedy Jr. has much more to say. Listen to the interview in it's entirety with veteran journalist, Al Guart on his new, "Beyond the Sphere" podcast show available on Rumble, Spotify, and iHeart Radio.  

 

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